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- Review Of Latest Forum Posts and New Participants
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- In future we may do the same thing for the Comparison Chart
- We will return to Epicurea Discussion when Bryan Returns
- Epicurea Discussion - start U220- page Page 882 - Being Cultured Is Not Necessary For Philosophy
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- Tonight: Nothing Comes From Nothing Or Goes To Nothing
- https://epicurustoday.com/topicaloutline/#A-2
- Epicurean canonics and physics unite in the conclusion that nothing comes from nothing or goes to nothing, even though the “atoms” from which things come, and to which things return, are not perceivable by the human sensations. This is a conclusion based on deductive reasoning from observations that the human sensations are able to make. As Epicurus states in the letter to Herodotus and Lucretius states very early in Book One of his poem, this conclusion forms the basis on which many other conclusions are reached by chain reasoning, all leading to the conclusion that the universe is entirely natural and neither created nor supervised by supernatural forces.
- When you consider energy remains valid even under modern physics.
- Opposition says matter is contingent and there can’t be infinite chain so have to define god as not-contingent.
- This is a logical argument and not based on observation. Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologica Argument from Contingency. See - Wikipedia pager for Cosmological Argument - there is a necessary being in and of itself.
- Responses -
- Assumes the non-contingent thing is a being.
- Question of Metaphysics vs Physics
