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- Welcome (Make Any Suggestions For Additions to Agenda Here)
- Review Of Latest Forum Posts and New Participants
- As needed whenever Bryan is not available we can talk about updates to the global outline here: The Nature of Void
- This week Bryan is out so we are postponing discussion of Usener- page 905 - 9 - CORRECT EXAMPLE FROM SIGHT Epicurea - Bryan Harris - Standard
- Other Topics -
- Updates On Kelly Arenson book. I have finished going through the text but not the notes.
- Her view is that katastematic pleasure as meaning pleasures for which there was no preexisting pain/lack/need.)
- As a result her distinction is not “motion vs rest” or “sensory vs non-sensory” but “pleasures which address needs/pains and pleasures which don’t address needs (which she describes as “painless”).
- She clearly sees both types as sensory and rejects the idea that katastematic is non-sensory.
- Does her conclusion really do justice to the arguments of the earlier chapters?
- Risk Aversion / Risk Management
- Relevant references in Epicurean texts
- What does it fall under? Prudence? The Virtue Of Courage? Both?
- Manage according tot he natural/necessary desire division.
- Can eleiminate fear of gods and fear of what happens after death but how do you calculate prudently here and now.
- Consult Philodemus’ property management text.
- Self-suficiency as a goal. Self-knowledge is important.
- How do we articulate a proiper level of risk tolerance?
- Boy Scouts - “Be Prepared” Analysis Paralysis - Some don’t want to make a decision bdecause they don’t want accountability.
- Wpicurus ins’t as concerned bout length of life as he is about quality. That tells us something about risk. Sedley’s take in overall view of happiness in Epicurean vs Cyreniac happiness
- So there is perhaps an “objective” percentage of risk from an activity but there is not a way to objectively weigh the pleasure or pain that comes from the activity
- The pushpin question as to the interchangeability of pleasures
- The question of whether to consoider the plesaure and pain that will result “after death” vs “while you are alive” depends on religious views.
- Jeffferson’s Head and Heart Letter!!!!!
- ZGo back to the Epicurus College project —
